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10 Responses to “The Why of the Yes Vote”

1. Dean says:

   March 23, 2010 at 9:00 am

   Why would that training adversely affect the economy?

   People will pay for training, educators will receive salaries and then use those salaries to support their families. College towns are usually immune to the ups and downs of state and national economies. … I don’t understand the argument. Please help me out — I want to see what you see.

   Small businesses (fewer than 50 employees) can opt out of the plan with no fee, and small businesses of more than 50 employees won’t really be affected anyway. Again, I don’t see what you’re seeing.

   As far as raising taxes, the CBO says this will reduce the deficit. You can argue with CBO all you want, but they are basically the umpire both sides look to in calculating this. So while no one really knows exactly what will happen, a really good non-partisan guess by some extremely smart people says this is the way to go.
2. Eric O'Daire says:

   March 22, 2010 at 9:59 pm

   Right. And all that training is going to dump our economy down the drain. So raise taxes. To whom? Oh, yeah, the working class. Small businesses will be put to the toaster, and if I get things correct, which I often do, Democrats should be helping the working class. But not everyone works for a living. Some people just feed off the government with food stamps and such. How is that gonna help the economy?
3. Dean says:

   March 22, 2010 at 8:42 pm

   I don’t know why people think this will exacerbate shortages of supplies and medical personnel. It really does seem like pretzel logic.

   One of the major arguments I’ve heard in debating this is that the uninsured still receive hospital care when they need it. Well if that’s the case, where do you see influx of patients coming from? The hospitals already see the people who need to be there, whether they’re uninsured or not. If anything, the reforms will eliminate the number of people who go to the ER for relatively routine things (flu, strep throat, etc).

   Now, there will be more demand at walk-in clinics. But that’s not a bad thing, because we can train more nurses and more nurse practitioners pretty easily.

   Also, it assumes we’re going to ration care, and I really don’t see that happening. We can get more supplies. We can get more personnel. We can do what we need to do — and no one’s going to have to sell his or her life away to make it happen.
4. Mary Mancini says:

   March 22, 2010 at 8:34 pm

   Right. And hopefully because of this new legislation, we are on our way to becoming a country where no one else will ever lose their home – or pathway to the American dream – to pay medical bills.
5. Eric O'Daire says:

   March 22, 2010 at 4:51 pm

   Mary, like many people, she did not have health insurance when she was young. My grandmother had to sell her house just to pay the medical bills. But you do understand that when the health care bill gets passed things will take a dramatic turn for the worse. Have you ever seen the movie Article 99? That’s pretty much what every hospital in the country is going to be doing. I noticed in Michael Moore’s movie Sicko that he praises the Cuban health care system. But what he doesn’t show you is the hospital facilities and how low their medical supplies are. I talked to someone from Cuba just the other day and he said that he would rather take his chances in America than going back to Cuba. So, you see, there is a line to be drawn. The government does not know what is right for the people. And 80% of the doctors disagree with the health care bill. Hell, even my doctor is pissed off about it.
6. Mary Mancini says:

   March 22, 2010 at 10:05 am

   Eric, I would like to reiterate Dean’s sentiments but also add something. Your Mom is fortunate enough to have access to health care. But imagine if she lived all her life with heart disease and did not. What would her life have been like?
7. Dean says:

   March 20, 2010 at 10:24 pm

   Eric:

   I wish nothing but the best for your mother. The day Mom passed was surreal and not all the pain has gone away.

   “Now she is at the end of her career and IF she needs another surgery, I highly doubt the government will give it to her because she is older. And from what I understand the government gets to decide what’s right for the people. The government chooses your doctors, the government decides who needs the best treatment.”

   I could be wrong, but that’s honestly not my interpretation of the bill. We do have the best medical research and really good doctors and surgeons, but a broken system weighs down our life-expectancy and infant mortality numbers.

   Please let me know if/how I can help. All the best.
8. Eric O'Daire says:

   March 20, 2010 at 3:51 pm

   I can honestly say I am proud of Obama. He is going to turn this country upside down. You know, my mom has had heart disease all her life. Now she is at the end of her career and IF she needs another surgery, I highly doubt the government will give it to her because she is older. And from what I understand the government gets to decide what’s right for the people. The government chooses your doctors, the government decides who needs the best treatment. Because Big Brother knows what’s right for the American people. A lot of doctors are gonna be out of jobs pretty soon…so you just go on and be happy for your little health care bill. And by the way, why do people from other countries flock to America to receive health care? We certainly don’t have the best medical research and really good doctors and surgeons. That can’t be possible, because Obama says so. I wonder whose pockets are being lined with green…
9. Mary Mancini says:

   March 19, 2010 at 5:01 pm

   Tomba – can you be a bit more specific on a) what the bill has in that you object to b) what is the “unprecedented attack on the Constitution”, c) who are the special interests?
10. tomba says:

    March 19, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    Well look what we have here – another one who, at some point down the road, will be heard saying ” Oh, really! Wow, I didn’t know the bill had THAT in it!” Then is when your moral and ethical foundation as both a politician and as a person will be exposed to not only the people of your neighborhood, district, and state, but to all Americans everywhere.

    When that day comes, it will be a very sad one for you but even a sadder one for America for you will have let her down. You will have facilitated an unprecedented attack on the Constitution of our great nation and will be a partner with those special interests who engineered it and hoodwinked you into believing “it’s all about health care reform”. Then we will all know why you voted the way you voted and you and your family will have to live with that for the rest of your lives.

    Do the right thing and start over focused on health care and nothing else.

    Or just keep your “For Sale” sign out. It stands out on the map, planted right there in the middle of Ohio, dotting the i. Then they can easily find you the next time they need to make a purchase.