Antiracist writer and educator (and Tennessean) Tim Wise gets some air time on CNN to ask the question that’s on everyone’s mind, “when will Republican leaders take a stand against the kind of rhetoric that stokes white racial resentment?” Or, I might add, are they so desperate for power that they will continue to allow the most radical fringe to speak for them?
LEMON: OK. So we are going to continue our discussion now over the health care rallies and the tone of what’s going on in the country. Tim Wise joins us. He’s frequent here on the show. The author of “Between Barack and a Hard Place” and among the most prominent anti- racist activist in the country. Thank you, sir. Always good to see you.
TIM WISE, AUTHOR “BETWEEN Barack AND A HARD PLACE”: You, too.
LEMON: You heard the chairman from Florida say no, it is not race.
WISE: I did.
LEMON: It does a disservice. You heard David Sirota say it is the elephant in the room.
WISE: Right. Well like I said in the show before, it is the background noise of a lot of the opposition, not all of it but a lot of it. You know, when you have someone like Glen Beck saying as he did about a month ago that the health care debate isn’t really about that. It is just reparations for black people, where you have Rush Limbaugh yesterday on the air saying first that community service is the first step towards fascism, which is bizarre even for him.
And then almost immediately after that saying one of the problems with America is too much multi culturalism [This is one of local talker Michael DelGiorno's favorite lines!]. You wouldn’t say that unless you are trying to stoke white racial resentment. And so when you say those things, I want to know when are Republican leaders going to condemn that kind of rhetoric because that is where race is being interjected. It is interjected by us, it’s interested by the leading talk show hosts in this country.
Read the rest of the transcript.
Hat tip: Crooks and Liars
BWLIB, I can be a troll, if that’s what you want to call me… as long as you liberals can’t debate the facts.. What does that make you? (refer to previous blog comments about the number of the march at Washington 9-12-09)
Thanks for trying, Dean. It is much appreciated. It appears as if Ryan has some “concern troll” traits.
Dean, it will only be educational if you want to learn, and engage in a real debate. That doesn’t work if you don’t address my points, as I addressed your’s.
I understand your time is valuable..
If you feel I attacked you personally, I’m sorry.. I was simply stating the way I feel about the situation, not necessarily you… just in general.
I’m done with this.
I try to have a legitimate debate with you on very substantive issues, and it becomes, in your eyes, a “rant.” And then you throw in judgmental, condescending remarks to boot.
I’m sorry, but I thought this would be fun and educational. I guess I was wrong. I wanted political discourse, but all I got were these lousy personal attacks. I wanted to drink from a fountain of knowledge, but all I got was a dish of red herring.
Sorry, but that’s not worth my time.
until the republicans get serious about removing illegal aliens,there will not be any republican leaders.
Yes, Medicare is unconstitutional, as is federally funded welfare. Federally funded abortions are also, illegal. The welfare of citizens is left entirely up to the states, but I wouldn’t expect you to understand that. Have you ever read the constitution?
The problem with your whole rant is that you feel its up to someone else to pay for your health care. It isn’t. Its your responsibility. Your children’s health care isn’t a commodity, its up to you to provide it. Just as you provide their clothes, their food, and take care of the rest of their needs. If you want them to have the best health care, you must prioritize that into your budget. Budget (that’s where you spend your money on paper, at the beginning of the month), I know liberals have a problem spending only the money they have/make.
Do you really think that you are going to get the “best care possible” when the government is in charge? On top of that, do you think you will be able to “demand” anything from the government? You are oblivious if you believe that you will receive anything less than the cheapest medical care possible. Ever heard the saying you get what you pay for? This is what you need to understand.. if you want the best, you will pay for the best, period. One way or the other, through taxes, or through the free market.
Have you done any research on countries that have socialized medicine in place? You know in Canada a 5 day wait in the emergency room isn’t unheard of? FIVE DAYS. To get into the regular doctor.. maybe a week or too… whoops, your cold is better by then.. on it’s own.
What kind of caps do you think a government run, “minimum” cost plan will have on it?
Yes, if you aren’t coughing “that badly” chances are you don’t need an x-ray, and you should have to pay for it. This mentality that someone else should provide your health care is crazy. Its not going to be anyone but you paying for it, do you not understand that? All you are doing is giving the government control of YOUR money.
So the billionaire that wants to self-insure himself should have to have medical insurance? That makes sense, right… someone that can afford any doctor bill he may have, should have to pay for insurance? I guess we should also require people to buy extended warranty on Best Buy purchases. Your premise is skewed.
On your point that when the hospital gets stiffed, it raises rates, and passes them on to us (even though I’ve explained to you that hospitals will put you on a payment plan).. What about the illegal immigrants who receive care and are never heard from again? We aren’t going to insure them, but if they continue doing this, the problem won’t be rectified.
I have an idea.. let’s remove the illegal aliens, and see how many of our problems are solved.
Damn. Another post of mine didn’t make it. Wonder what the deal is?
“Federally run health care is unconstitutional.” Well, wouldn’t that apply to Medicare? Hmm. And what about promoting the general welfare?
What I had said in my previous post that didn’t make it was this: welfare, in terms of the insurance debate, is a red herring. Most of the people I’m worried about are underinsured. They have insurance that they work hard for, but because it has a cap (i.e., a maximum amount the insurer will pay), they’re vulnerable.
If a cap is $1 million and a hospital bill is $2 million, then bankruptcy is the only option. A lot of us have $1 million caps. It’s rare to find an uncapped policy, and they’re expensive as hell — cost prohibitive, in fact, for anyone making near a median income. Anyone whose policy is capped is vulnerable.
“… Hold your insurance companies feet to the fire when hey try to deny you of service…” Were that it was so, my friend. But insurance companies don’t play fair. They refused to pay a $100 claim over a typo, and they were damn mean. Can’t imagine what it’s like to get $100,000 out of them.
Re: the car anology. “The way to fix our broken system is to get people in touch with the actual cost of health care by having them pay for these services.” Sounds good, but then you force people into the position of weighing health against cost. In other words, it’s a position of “Hmmm. Doc says I need the X-Ray, but I’ve got to pay for it myself. And I’m not coughing THAT badly.”
Cars can be replaced. I can drive a car with an oil leak. But if I’m sick or my child’s sick, we should demand the best care possible.
One more thing with that: just like car insurance, health insurance should be mandatory. If Johnny hits you and he’s uninsured, you pay the price. You’re out your deductible, and your premium rises. If Johnny gets sick and he’s uninsured, you also pay the price. The hospital gets stiffed, raises its rates, which in turn is passed on to the insurer, which is passed on to you.
Once more, I ask: Why should my children’s health be treated as a commodity?
Federally run health care is unconstitutional. The Constitution clearly reserves for the individual states the right to see to the well-being of its own citizens, and forbids the federal government from interfering.
Health care is 17% of the GDP. This is a power grab, plain and simple, and the government is playing on people’s emotions to help them achieve their goal.
“Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated.†–Thomas Jefferson
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Federally run health care is unconstitutional. The Constitution clearly reserves for the individual states the right to see to the well-being of its own citizens, and forbids the federal government from interfering.
Health care is 17% of the GDP. This is a power grab, plain and simple, and the government is playing on people’s emotions to help them achieve their goal.
“Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated.†–Thomas Jefferson
OK, you try to and switch your insurance plan right now. Chances are that you’ll be told about open enrollment, and you can switch then, and then only. It’s not like car insurance, where you can switch easily. And in many states, there’s really only one or two carriers in the whole state. I recently did some shopping, and it was all the same quote, with maybe 2 percent variance. So yeah, it was an intelligent statement. Perhaps you can come with an intelligent rebuttal.
This isn’t really about people on welfare. This is also about people who can’t get a cap on their insurance. If you don’t have a cap (a maximum amount an insurer will pay), you can easily pay $1 million or $2 million or $10 million out-of-pocket. I’m not talking deductible; I’m talking cap. And there is no payment plan for that. $20 a week, paying $1 million, let’s see … oh, hey, we’ll be free in the next millennium.
There are people who do everything right, and they still get abused by the system. You said: “If you don’t lie to the insurance company, they will never have a reason to disqualify you from being covered.” … oh, were that it was so, my friend. But it is not. Holding their feet to the fire? It’s easier to hold an elephant’s feet to the fire. Ever try to wrestle with your insurance company over a simple claim, say $100? They play rough. Now try it with, say, $50,000 on the line.
I agree people misuse the system, but the system often misuses the people. For instance, a person with no health insurance must go to the ER to seek medical attention for things like the flu or a fever or things like that. They can’t go to a walk-in the way you or I can; those places don’t take insurance. And while a lot of uninsured people have no one to blame but themselves, a lot can’t afford it or have been denied b/c of a pre-existing condition. Open up access to those people, and we’ll cut costs right there.
Ah, the car analogy. You said, “The way to fix our broken system is to get people in touch with the actual cost of health care by having them pay for these services (check ups, physicals, simple colds)… this will drive down the cost.” Well, the actual cost of health care is pretty damn high. And most people can’t pay for it. And when they’re sick — or their children are sick — they shouldn’t be placed in position where they’re weighing finances against health. (Hmm. Doc says I need he needs an X-Ray, but he’s not coughing THAT badly)).
One more thing: Hell, yes, everyone should have to carry insurance. Just like car insurance, we are all impacted when someone doesn’t carry insurance. If Johnny hits you and doesn’t have insurance, you have to pay your car, or your insurer pays you and then slaps a higher premium on everyone. Well, if Johnny gets sick and doesn’t have insurance, the hospital absorbs the cost, passing on to the insurer, who then slaps a higher premium on everyone.
Again, why should health be treated as a commodity? I really want to know.
Dean, Welfare only hurts the people you are trying to help, by holding them down from making something of themselves (because they become comfortable with that check). I don’t believe I’m better than anyone, and I’m sorry you got that impression. I do believe everyone deserves help when they truly need it, but it shouldn’t be the government who helps them. They should exhaust every other resource, first. Friends, family, church, and non-profits, FIRST.. then government is the last resort. If you are too proud for all of that, you don’t deserve help.
I’m sorry you didn’t really address my point about health insurance compared to car insurance, but I outlined my idea of a solution. I understand, you don’t want to spend money on health care. Not money directly from your checkbook anyway. You would rather an increase in taxes pay for the care, and let the government do it. That is sick.
Health insurance is something that can be shopped. It may not be as easy as asking about plans at different cell phone stores, but yes, it can be compared to make an informed decision. If you don’t lie to the insurance company, they will never have a reason to disqualify you from being covered. And why can’t you switch policies? That’s not an intelligent statement, Dean.
The reason premiums haven’t gone down is because people misuse the system. We don’t have to go to the doctor and make a claim every time we have a head cold or a sore throat. We don’t need anti-biotics every time we have a runny nose. Trust me, when you have people start paying for regular doctor visits, and insurance is used for catastrophe (you know, like insurance is SUPPOSED to be used).. insurance premiums AND the cost of health care WILL go down.
If your health (and your children’s health) is so important, why is it not at the top of your list of priorities to pay for? Food, Shelter, Health Insurance should be at the top of your budget, and then everything else comes afterwards. If it’s so important, you should pay for it yourself, and hold your insurance companies feet to the fire when they try to deny you of service. This is how every family should handle this. Health insurance shouldn’t be below the 2009 Escalade, the 2008 Lexus RS, the $250 cell phone bill, the $125 Comcast bill, the $50 netflix bill, the 10 nights eating out a month.. etc. Then at the end of the month, they wonder how in the world they are to pay for health insurance.. “its just too expensive” No, you just have your priorities jacked up.
The public option doesn’t “help the free market”.. it gets the government involved, and employers (who will be required to insure employees) will have to use the cheapest option to make ends meet.
Dean, you aren’t vulnerable to bankruptcy. All you have to do, no matter the bill… is work with the hospital on a payment plan. That’s it. No bankruptcy. You have let the administration scare you into believing that we have some kind of enormous number of people filing bankruptcy due to medical costs.. and that simply isn’t true.
We haven’t even discussed the President’s decision that everyone being covered is the only way to fix health care. There are plenty of people in the US that DECIDED not to carry insurance on themselves. Whether they are college students that are healthy, or rich people that choose to self-insure.. its not the governments decision to make for these people. They shouldn’t have to insure themselves if they don’t want to.
This is America, you can do better, FOR YOURSELF. Let the government build roads and provide security, and leave the rest to the free market.
Eric and Ryan:
Why should my children’s health be treated as a commodity? I really want to know.
And since I have a cap on my insurance (as do most of us), why should I be left vulnerable to bankruptcy even though I’m doing everything right, at least in terms of finances?
I mean, this is America. We can do better.
I’ll grant you there are abuses. Always.
But the public option actually helps the free market.
Think about it: when you go to work for an employer, your choice for insurance really isn’t a choice. You either take the plan offered (if it’s offered at all) or you seek out another insurance company at a much higher cost. Or you go on the DGS (Don’t Get Sick) plan.
And that really isn’t a choice, is it?
It’s not like competition for cable or cell-phone service, where I can search for the best deal on text messaging, or see if someone out there offers the SpongeBob Squarepants Channel or ESPN8 in high-def and surround sound.
It’s not like going to a bunch of different grocery stores, where I can run to Store A for the best produce, Store B for the choice meat and Store C for the video-store kiosk inside.
It’s not even like car insurance, where if my company handles a claim poorly, I can switch with a 15-minute phone call.
No, our current health insurance system doesn’t offer any of the benefits of competition. Premiums haven’t gone down in this country; they’ve risen 120 percent over the last decade. The only competition seems to be which company can generate the most profit, and the most profit-generating thing those companies can do is to figure out how to deny a claim.
After all, their interest isn’t necessarily in your health; it’s in making sure you don’t get sick enough to seek a treatment that will cost them money.
But the most basic answer is this: health care shouldn’t be a competitive endeavor. Our health is too important, and our children’s health is 1,000 times more important than our own.
Dean, I appreciate your sympathy, but you have to pull the wool from your eyelids, as my mom says. My father is a pharmacist, and every day he sees people drive up in their fancy SUVs and pull out their Tenncare card. My point is, a large portion of the people who are on welfare probably sit on their asses all day and wait for that check to come in. Meanwhile, decent, hard-working Americans, such as myself, are busting their asses in order to provide for their family and the people around them. You see where I’m getting at?
I have had two posts not appear. What’s up with that?
One more thing, Ryan. You seem like the sort who knows what he wants, works hard, and then goes and gets it done. I really respect that, and those are things I also aspire to as well.
But you don’t seem to understand that while those are excellent traits, it doesn’t make you morally superior to those who receive welfare or can’t make all their ends meet, for whatever reason. I really get that vibe in your writings, and it makes me feel both anger and pity toward you. I hope I am wrong about that vibe.
I always remember what one of my coaches in high school asked me: how do you want to be remembered? I want to be remembered as a good, decent man who cared about those around him, who overcame odds and who worked his butt off.
How do you want to be remembered?
Eric, thank you brother… I’m glad someone else tries to show these people the light.
Dean, I want to call you a moron, but I will refrain. Your party is behind Obama’s decision to stay in this “endless war”… and they aren’t questioning the billion dollars a day, anymore. This is why you aren’t relevant in that argument.
Broken programs are programs that can’t pay for themselves, and that cost more money each year (if you can’t pay for it, its broken). Yes, I’m sure the people that are receiving free government money and services are ok with them, but if you asked them if they would take more.. they would say yes. Welfare should be a temporary state of affairs to help someone get back on their feet. If you can’t tell, it isn’t that. Its a way of life for people on welfare. They wait for the check, and sit on their lazy rear end the rest of the month. That’s what my hard earned tax money is supporting. People that are too lazy to work.
I don’t agree that medicare should be ended… I believe it is a decent program in place to help people that truly can’t afford health care. What I don’t agree with is the growth of the program that is out of control.
The mentality that you shouldn’t have to pay for your own health care is absolutely absurd. People that can’t afford health care still have cell phones, cable tv, and brand new cars. You see, the problem is their priorities, and the same idea that you have.. “someone else should pay for my health care.”
I don’t believe anyone “deserves” to suffer. People have every chance in this world to earn a living, and pay for their health care. You said yourself, if someone is hurt, and really needs help… they will be taken care of without being required to pay before service. Then most, if not all, hospitals will work with them on a way to pay that debt off (you know, for saving their lives) at a rate they can afford. Whether is $20 a week or $5 a month.. as long as they are being paid, they aren’t satisfied.
I must ask.. if someone is poor, and can’t afford health insurance, what is bankruptcy going to hurt? They don’t have anything to bankrupt, obviously.. or they would have health insurance, right? If they have so many assets to protect, and no health insurance… I think they should liquidate, don’t you?
This is the solution for our health care problem… now read this… don’t skip through it like you did the rest of what I said:
Health insurance should be treated as that, insurance. What if car insurance covered oil changes, tires, brake service, and tune ups? Could you afford it? Could anyone afford it? No. The way to fix our broken system is to get people in touch with the actual cost of health care by having them pay for these services (check ups, physicals, simple colds).. this will drive down the cost of health care in a few ways. First, people will shop around for care with pricing, just like people pick which item to buy at walmart. Second, people won’t run to the doctor with every simple cold if they have to pay for that visit. This will cut down on unnecessary doctor visits, reducing cost. This will also require doctors and hospitals to be upfront in the open with the actual costs of what they do. This will initiate pricing competition by using the free market.
I know, you don’t believe in the free market… but it is the solution.
You go Dean!
One more point about health care being a human right: it’s a concept that’s proven every time someone is taken to the hospital with a medical emergency, whether it be a heart attack, car accident or broken limb. There is no immediate discussion of ability to pay. Treatment starts ASAP — whether that person is a CEO, a convict or homeless. Why? Because it’s the right thing to do.
And here’s why global coverage is so important: it gives people access to preventive care, and it prevents people from going bankrupt in case of a medical catastrophe. And as I alluded to earlier, it often prolongs treatment, whereas insurance companies — using “death panels” — sometimes deny treatment.
Thank you.
WAY TO GO RYAN!!! I’d kiss you if I wasn’t married. And straight.
Hey, I said Obama wasn’t perfect. I don’t agree with what we’re doing in Afghanistan and Iraq. We should come home. Of course, had the previous management prosecuted the war correctly, perhaps we wouldn’t have this problem. How that gives me no credibility is beyond me, but what the hell.
Medicare and Medicaid are broken? That explains the vast majority of recipients who love their Medicare. Perhaps if Republicans were honest, they would campaign on a promise to end Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. Good luck with that. Yeah, we need to find a way to pay for it. But the program itself is not broken.
That’s one reason the war is extremely relevant. We fought two wars and cut taxes at the same time and now we have no money. Shocker. It was your party that presided over that. It’s a large part of the reason we’re in the mess we’re in right now.
By the way, most Americans who don’t have health insurance are already working; they just can’t afford, or can’t get coverage b/c of pre-existing condition. Republicans say they want to eliminate the pre-existing clause, but it’s not in any GOP proposal. Perhaps Rep. Wilson was just talking to his own party?
One more thing: to assume health care isn’t a human right is just plain amoral. I suggest you find the parent of a sick child who’s been denied access, or find an adult cancer patient whose insurance ran out, and then politely tell them their suffering is deserved b/c they don’t have enough money, and government should not do a damn thing about it b/c you’re afraid it might lead to socialism.
They’re easier to find than you think. And let me know how that goes.
Dean, my response wasn’t to you, it was to Dan.. but black liberation theology does teach racism, and I think that was what Beck was commenting on. I don’t believe (from that video) that Beck is racist.
As for your previous statement.. yes I believe TARP is on the road to full blown socialism. I believe Bush started us down this road, and I think Obama is contributing to the idiocracy. Medicare and medicaid are BROKEN socialist programs. As is welfare. Police and fire protection are what the government needs to be focused on. They don’t need to be in the business of bailing out business and creating more social programs.
The auto bailout DIDN’T work.. both GM and Chrysler went through bankruptcy, after we gave them billions of taxpayer dollars. They could have done that without our money, is that hard to understand?
I don’t understand why you are still reverting to talking about the war, and how big of a problem it is. You have absolutely no credibility when you don’t condone the war that President Obama is continuing on all fronts. He ran on a platform of pulling out immediately, and didn’t do that. He has the same timetable as President Bush. I guess it’s ok, because he is a liberal? I don’t understand that.
The way to “deliver” healthcare to those people that need it, is for them to get off their comfortable rear ends, and work for it. To provide THEMSELVES with health care. Medicare was put in place to provide people with healthcare that truly can’t afford it.. everyone else should be taken care of by themselves. This idea that health care is a god-given right is absurd. If you don’t have health care, go buy it. If you don’t want to buy health care, you shouldn’t have to. It’s not the government’s job to be involved in this, I wish you would tell your Democratic friends that.
Speaking of YouTube, I guess this means you now consider Beck a non-factor?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI_0Kt_e3Go
You’re right: this isn’t about race, nor should it be. It’s about what’s best for the country, and about how to deliver healthcare to those who need it. I so wish you would tell your Republican friends that.
Dan, When whoever “Wise” is, says that Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh said something about race… that is hearsay. I’ve personally never heard either of them say any of the things they are being quoted as saying. I don’t listen to these guys alot, but I’ve never heard them mention reparations. The only person I’ve ever heard mention reparations is Reverend Wright.
My stance is, this isn’t about race. And anyone that is ignorant enough to believe that it is about race, should be ignored. Their points aren’t valid, period. There will always be ignorant people in the world.. we can ignore them, or give them a leg to stand on by talking about them.
My problem with the Rev. Wrigth/Obama situation is that Obama sat in his church for 20 years, and then when he was called out on the issue.. this is when his views suddenly changed. It didn’t have anything to do with what Rev. Wright was saying the past 20 years, it had to do with Obama’s image, or the damage to said image. This doesn’t seem sincere to me, but who am I to judge his heart? It just seems to me that if he didn’t have a problem with it for 20 years, a couple of youtube videos wouldn’t change his mind.
If you don’t think there aren’t racial overtones to some — not all, but some — of the criticisms of the President, you’re delusional. Enough said.
Those who have legitimate criticisms should be appalled, b/c people like Glenn Beck, the birthers and the tea party leader who called Obama “an Indonesian Muslim and a welfare thug” drown out everyone else. Only true Republicans can stop the people on the fringe from high-jacking their party, but they’re unwilling or unable to do so. Then again, modern-day Republicans being soft, weak and lazy is nothing new. If you and guys like Alexander and Corker would finally grow some and be the adults in the Republican Romper Room, perhaps your party could do something and not be led by angry simpletons.
As far as socialism goes, it simply isn’t true. TARP started with the previous administration. The car bailout worked, and most economists agree the only thing wrong with the stimulus is that it didn’t ask for enough money. But did it work? I don’t know — let’s actually spend more than 5 percent of it and find out.
If you think a public option is socialist, then you think Medicare and Social Security are socialist. Under the same arguments, fire and police protections are also socialist. And don’t tell me about money — when we were spending $1 billion/day in Iraq, your party didn’t give a rat’s ass.
Obama ain’t perfect. But he’s far better than anything your side has to offer.
I trust you guys when you say that race isn’t your issue with this president. I think your issue is that he thinks that gov’t has a role to play in fixing some of these problems. You obviously disagree (except that “getting out” could be a role). But that isn’t the point of this post.
There are some people out there who do have an issue with his race. And it is odd when these personalities mention race in the ways listed above. How hard would it be for someone in a position of authority to come out and say “I don’t agree with those statements.” Now, if someone has, I have missed it. I would be HAPPY to admit that I missed it because of my personal media bias.
Just look at Obama / Reverend Wright for an acceptable template for what to do when someone you love or respect says some crazy things.
Eric, I was under the impression he was going to fix it in the first 100 days. You know, out of the war, fix the housing crisis, pass health care reform.. blah blah blah. Rhetoric to get elected.. and people fell for it, and are still falling for it. They took the hook, line, and sinker.
BWLIB, our problem has nothing to do with race. You can bring it up all you want, but it makes you look very insignificant to ignore the points we introduce time after time. I’m not racist, and I don’t believe President Obama is racist (other than the black liberation theology he has followed most of his life). This is about social programs and big government.
I mean, you can’t even respond to the previous blog about how many people were really at the capital this weekend. Check that out Eric, for a good laugh.. when these people are faced with facts that aren’t what they thought was real (because of the media bias) they can’t respond, at all.
Didn’t Obama say that he was going to “clean up the mess” during his campaign? He certainly hasn’t started to do that. Billions of dollars down the drain, and for what? I think people are sick and tired of all the corruption and the lies. That’s what I am getting out of all of this. You underestimate the thousands of people that rally daily at the town hall meetings, and you think we’re the minority. Well, you’re wrong. Even Democrats are stepping up and saying something. So why don’t you get your head out of your ass and get a whiff of reality. People are getting frustrated. I talked to my uncle just the other day. He’s as liberal as they come. He’s fed up with this mess. I just don’t think you want to see the truth…
I don’t have a problem with anyone disagreeing with President Obama’s policies. But tell me, which of his policies do comments like “Obama is a racist” and “Healthcare reform is about reparations for black people” and “multi-culturalism is bad” address? Which policies are they arguments for or against?
And I am just laughing – laughing out loud – that you think the current President has had “plenty of time to clean this mess up.” 8 months to clean up 8 years? Really?
Hey, Mary, can I ask you something? Why is it that when anyone tries to speak their mind you call them a racist? Just because we don’t agree with Obama’s policies doesn’t mean we’re racist. I have many black friends. So cut the bullshit. You are always looking for something to complain about. It’s always the Republicans’ fault for everything. Well, look at the mess we’re in now. Obama had plenty of chances to clean this mess up, and he hasn’t. And did you see how many people were standing outside the capital during the tea party last weekend? And all over the country people were rallying against this health care bill. So maybe you ought to look at yourself for once, instead of blaming everything on the past eight years. Like I said, Obama has had plenty of time to clean this mess up. He has failed us. Unemployment has risen. This country is falling down, and you don’t even realize it. The media wants to silence everyone who is against Obamacare. Do you see that? I’m sure you don’t. So go complain with Michael Moore and all of your other friends. But don’t come crying to me when the country turns upside down…