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	<title>Comments on: Boscos at Gunpoint</title>
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	<description>with Mary Mancini &#38; Freddie O&#039;Connell</description>
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		<title>By: jp</title>
		<link>http://www.liberadio.com/2009/05/30/boscos-at-gunpoint/comment-page-1/#comment-166387</link>
		<dc:creator>jp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to work at boscos and went in there last night and you know what they didn&#039;t check me for a gun. I don&#039;t mind certain restaurants asserting their rights but they act like they have been checking people for weapons all along(hell no). Just let the permit holders in you know there not going to be in bars anyway(mostly restaurants) There are no examples of wild shootouts in states that have this and the only arguement I hear people using is It will be like &quot;Gunsmoke&quot; or &quot;some wild west show&quot; well need I remind you that those are made up and not real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to work at boscos and went in there last night and you know what they didn&#8217;t check me for a gun. I don&#8217;t mind certain restaurants asserting their rights but they act like they have been checking people for weapons all along(hell no). Just let the permit holders in you know there not going to be in bars anyway(mostly restaurants) There are no examples of wild shootouts in states that have this and the only arguement I hear people using is It will be like &#8220;Gunsmoke&#8221; or &#8220;some wild west show&#8221; well need I remind you that those are made up and not real.</p>
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		<title>By: kws</title>
		<link>http://www.liberadio.com/2009/05/30/boscos-at-gunpoint/comment-page-1/#comment-163023</link>
		<dc:creator>kws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An owner of a restaurant or bar has the freedom to choose whether they allow firearms in their place of business and the HCP holders have the freedom to take their business somewhere else.  This bill just makes it legal for HCP holders to go out to eat w/o disarming at an establishment that serves alcohol.  It still will be illegal to drink alcohol and carry a firearm, so all the bleating about &quot;guns and alcohol don&#039;t mix&quot; just highlights the ignorance about this legislation.  The &quot;protest&quot; at Bosco&#039;s is just a heads up the management about how much business they will be losing.

BTW, the signs won&#039;t stop criminals.  They&#039;re already used to breaking laws.  They&#039;ll appreciate that the only ones with guns in these establishments are themselves and other criminals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An owner of a restaurant or bar has the freedom to choose whether they allow firearms in their place of business and the HCP holders have the freedom to take their business somewhere else.  This bill just makes it legal for HCP holders to go out to eat w/o disarming at an establishment that serves alcohol.  It still will be illegal to drink alcohol and carry a firearm, so all the bleating about &#8220;guns and alcohol don&#8217;t mix&#8221; just highlights the ignorance about this legislation.  The &#8220;protest&#8221; at Bosco&#8217;s is just a heads up the management about how much business they will be losing.</p>
<p>BTW, the signs won&#8217;t stop criminals.  They&#8217;re already used to breaking laws.  They&#8217;ll appreciate that the only ones with guns in these establishments are themselves and other criminals.</p>
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		<title>By: D Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.liberadio.com/2009/05/30/boscos-at-gunpoint/comment-page-1/#comment-162906</link>
		<dc:creator>D Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 00:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To A Guy in Brentwood...couldn&#039;t have said it better. But Mary...he&#039;s not differentiating any worse than the conservatives do. When those who wish to ban guns have their discussion, they rarely (if ever) bring out the fact that what they&#039;re really looking to stop are the CRIMINALS...yet they continue to go after all of us who carry. 

For those who look to veto these types of bills for fear of spending time in an establishment that serves alcohol to &quot;gun-toting&quot; Americans...you&#039;re already spending time in those establishments with those of us who carry....you just don&#039;t know who we are. Making it legal for us to carry when we&#039;re at dinner simply allows us the freedom to keep our firearms with us while we enjoy a relaxing meal. We&#039;re not allowed to drink if we carry. And if we have our guns with us, you&#039;re less likely to get shot when you leave the place by some idiot that illegally breaks into our vehicles to steal our weapons.

Those of us who have earned the right to carry concealed are NOT your problem. And as the Brentwood man said, the restaurant &amp; bar owners certainly have a choice to put the sign up...but it won&#039;t stop us from carrying into their establishments. What it will do is let those non-law-abiding citizens feel much safer about robbing the place. Just pray that there&#039;s a card-carrying/weapon-wielding patron enjoying their meal with their family nearby when it happens...because they&#039;re always more than willing to protect YOU at their own risk as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To A Guy in Brentwood&#8230;couldn&#8217;t have said it better. But Mary&#8230;he&#8217;s not differentiating any worse than the conservatives do. When those who wish to ban guns have their discussion, they rarely (if ever) bring out the fact that what they&#8217;re really looking to stop are the CRIMINALS&#8230;yet they continue to go after all of us who carry. </p>
<p>For those who look to veto these types of bills for fear of spending time in an establishment that serves alcohol to &#8220;gun-toting&#8221; Americans&#8230;you&#8217;re already spending time in those establishments with those of us who carry&#8230;.you just don&#8217;t know who we are. Making it legal for us to carry when we&#8217;re at dinner simply allows us the freedom to keep our firearms with us while we enjoy a relaxing meal. We&#8217;re not allowed to drink if we carry. And if we have our guns with us, you&#8217;re less likely to get shot when you leave the place by some idiot that illegally breaks into our vehicles to steal our weapons.</p>
<p>Those of us who have earned the right to carry concealed are NOT your problem. And as the Brentwood man said, the restaurant &amp; bar owners certainly have a choice to put the sign up&#8230;but it won&#8217;t stop us from carrying into their establishments. What it will do is let those non-law-abiding citizens feel much safer about robbing the place. Just pray that there&#8217;s a card-carrying/weapon-wielding patron enjoying their meal with their family nearby when it happens&#8230;because they&#8217;re always more than willing to protect YOU at their own risk as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Mancini</title>
		<link>http://www.liberadio.com/2009/05/30/boscos-at-gunpoint/comment-page-1/#comment-160062</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Mancini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 22:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments, Brentwood. But you contradict yourself. 

If the simple truth is that there isn&#039;t any gun violence in bars and restaurants, then why do you differentiate between bars that allow guns and bars that do not allow guns?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments, Brentwood. But you contradict yourself. </p>
<p>If the simple truth is that there isn&#8217;t any gun violence in bars and restaurants, then why do you differentiate between bars that allow guns and bars that do not allow guns?</p>
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		<title>By: A GUY IN BRENTWOOD</title>
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		<dc:creator>A GUY IN BRENTWOOD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 21:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True to liberal form, the comments in the above article do nothing to foster a genuine discussion of the issue, and instead, the article stoops to a typical tactic of the Left - instead of presenting a cogent, logical argument, the article resorts to demonization and character assassination of the opposition.  When logic can&#039;t win an argument, turn up the mindless, emotional rhetoric.

The simple truth is there are at least 37 other states where similar laws have been passed, and NONE of them has turned into what you Libs are always screaming about: drunks with guns turning every bar and restaurant into the Old West.  The truth is that CCW holders across the US are among the most law abiding people around.

No restaurant owner&#039;s liberty is being challenged.  The only liberty really being challenged is for law abiding TN citizens to defend themselves and their families when they go out to lunch or dinner at a place that happens to serve alcohol.  

If the owner of Boscos wants to prohibit concealed carry at his establishments, I certainly respect his right to do so, just as I am sure he respects my right to bypass his restaurant in favor of spending my hard earned cash at another venue that is not anti-2nd Amendment.  In my case, this started yesterday afternoon (6/5/09) when I first saw the no gun sticker at the 21st Ave location.  I am sure the owner of Boscos also respects my right to discuss, email or blog this topic with every other gun owner and CCW holder I know.

I, my wife and children will NEVER spend our money in any restaurant where the owner denies my CONSTITUTIONALLY guaranteed right to bear arms for self defense.  These folks have essentially painted a target on their establishmentsâ€™ front windoww with a sign that says &quot;GUN FREE ZONE - come in and freely rob, rape and kill all the patrons in here&quot;.  How many of you left wingers would be dumb enough to put a &quot;GUN FREE ZONE&quot; sign in the front yard of your house?  

I can promise you that most, if not all of my CCW friends and acquaintances will never patronize a restaurant that doesn&#039;t allow self defense with a firearm.  CCW holders tend not to be middle of the road folks when it comes to the 2nd Amendment; we DO tend to be passionate about our rights to self defense.  There are over 200,000 CCW holders in TN.  That&#039;s a lot of folks with a lot of cash.  WE ARE EVERYWHERE.

Brentwood, TN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True to liberal form, the comments in the above article do nothing to foster a genuine discussion of the issue, and instead, the article stoops to a typical tactic of the Left &#8211; instead of presenting a cogent, logical argument, the article resorts to demonization and character assassination of the opposition.  When logic can&#8217;t win an argument, turn up the mindless, emotional rhetoric.</p>
<p>The simple truth is there are at least 37 other states where similar laws have been passed, and NONE of them has turned into what you Libs are always screaming about: drunks with guns turning every bar and restaurant into the Old West.  The truth is that CCW holders across the US are among the most law abiding people around.</p>
<p>No restaurant owner&#8217;s liberty is being challenged.  The only liberty really being challenged is for law abiding TN citizens to defend themselves and their families when they go out to lunch or dinner at a place that happens to serve alcohol.  </p>
<p>If the owner of Boscos wants to prohibit concealed carry at his establishments, I certainly respect his right to do so, just as I am sure he respects my right to bypass his restaurant in favor of spending my hard earned cash at another venue that is not anti-2nd Amendment.  In my case, this started yesterday afternoon (6/5/09) when I first saw the no gun sticker at the 21st Ave location.  I am sure the owner of Boscos also respects my right to discuss, email or blog this topic with every other gun owner and CCW holder I know.</p>
<p>I, my wife and children will NEVER spend our money in any restaurant where the owner denies my CONSTITUTIONALLY guaranteed right to bear arms for self defense.  These folks have essentially painted a target on their establishmentsâ€™ front windoww with a sign that says &#8220;GUN FREE ZONE &#8211; come in and freely rob, rape and kill all the patrons in here&#8221;.  How many of you left wingers would be dumb enough to put a &#8220;GUN FREE ZONE&#8221; sign in the front yard of your house?  </p>
<p>I can promise you that most, if not all of my CCW friends and acquaintances will never patronize a restaurant that doesn&#8217;t allow self defense with a firearm.  CCW holders tend not to be middle of the road folks when it comes to the 2nd Amendment; we DO tend to be passionate about our rights to self defense.  There are over 200,000 CCW holders in TN.  That&#8217;s a lot of folks with a lot of cash.  WE ARE EVERYWHERE.</p>
<p>Brentwood, TN</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.liberadio.com/2009/05/30/boscos-at-gunpoint/comment-page-1/#comment-159915</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to knowing whothe officers were at the veto ceremont that is accounability by the citizens to know who is willfully or not being used as a prop.

 If police chiefs and sheriffs are  willing to be the public face for a veto ceremony the voters do have the right  to know who they are. So they can either approve or disapprove in future elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to knowing whothe officers were at the veto ceremont that is accounability by the citizens to know who is willfully or not being used as a prop.</p>
<p> If police chiefs and sheriffs are  willing to be the public face for a veto ceremony the voters do have the right  to know who they are. So they can either approve or disapprove in future elections.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.liberadio.com/2009/05/30/boscos-at-gunpoint/comment-page-1/#comment-159914</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The restaurant has the right to ban guns at his place and the pro gunnies have the right to protest his decsion and boycott the place.  So what is wrong with the protest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The restaurant has the right to ban guns at his place and the pro gunnies have the right to protest his decsion and boycott the place.  So what is wrong with the protest.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikee</title>
		<link>http://www.liberadio.com/2009/05/30/boscos-at-gunpoint/comment-page-1/#comment-159904</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read comment threads on posts like the one linked above, in the now-nearly-completely-dashed hope that I will see an anti-gun argument posted that has not been discredited twenty times over, or at least a novel idea by the antis in the gun debate. Everything presented is old, old, old.

This post, like all posts &amp; comments I have read since about the time Heller v. DC brought out the best in commenters, disappoints greatly. Feelings, ad-hominem, discredited info, lack of knowledge on the part of the anti-gunners. Data, rationality, information presented by the pro-gunners. Nothing new.

I am told I am a dreamer, but I will continue to search.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read comment threads on posts like the one linked above, in the now-nearly-completely-dashed hope that I will see an anti-gun argument posted that has not been discredited twenty times over, or at least a novel idea by the antis in the gun debate. Everything presented is old, old, old.</p>
<p>This post, like all posts &amp; comments I have read since about the time Heller v. DC brought out the best in commenters, disappoints greatly. Feelings, ad-hominem, discredited info, lack of knowledge on the part of the anti-gunners. Data, rationality, information presented by the pro-gunners. Nothing new.</p>
<p>I am told I am a dreamer, but I will continue to search.</p>
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		<title>By: another TGO</title>
		<link>http://www.liberadio.com/2009/05/30/boscos-at-gunpoint/comment-page-1/#comment-159900</link>
		<dc:creator>another TGO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 13:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the other 40 something states where this legislation already exists? Do they have bar patrons shooting each other up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the other 40 something states where this legislation already exists? Do they have bar patrons shooting each other up?</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://www.liberadio.com/2009/05/30/boscos-at-gunpoint/comment-page-1/#comment-159830</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 11:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this bill and it&#039;s supporters, just goes to show that&quot;BUBBA&quot; type thinking is alive and well in TN.  and we wonder why folks still have the perceptions of us that they do, but hey, this state voted for a retirement home candidate and a brainless bimbo....so what does one expect?  you mix guns with booze,we all loose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this bill and it&#8217;s supporters, just goes to show that&#8221;BUBBA&#8221; type thinking is alive and well in TN.  and we wonder why folks still have the perceptions of us that they do, but hey, this state voted for a retirement home candidate and a brainless bimbo&#8230;.so what does one expect?  you mix guns with booze,we all loose.</p>
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