Comments on: Clinging to My Martinis and My Constitution and My Antipathy Towards a Government That Doesn’t Represent Me http://www.liberadio.com/2008/04/13/clinging-to-my-martinis-and-my-constitution-and-my-antipathy-towards-a-government-that-doesnt-represent-me/ with Mary Mancini & Freddie O'Connell Wed, 20 Apr 2011 02:05:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Mary http://www.liberadio.com/2008/04/13/clinging-to-my-martinis-and-my-constitution-and-my-antipathy-towards-a-government-that-doesnt-represent-me/comment-page-1/#comment-98136 Mary Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:37:04 +0000 http://www.liberadio.com/2008/04/13/clinging-to-my-martinis-and-my-constitution-and-my-antipathy-towards-a-government-that-doesnt-represent-me/#comment-98136 Yes, Dano, understanding the nuance of his statement and later clarification makes it easy to make sense of what he was saying. He's not getting a break but it doesn't seem as if it's affecting him in any tangible way. Did you see the debate last night? It was like "dog-pile-on Obama" with Charlie Gibson's and George Stephanopoulos' questions. At one point Obama made a conscious effort to steer the conversation to policy and was deflected by Stephanopoulos' insistence that they talk about The Weather Underground. Incredibly frustrating. Yes, Dano, understanding the nuance of his statement and later clarification makes it easy to make sense of what he was saying. He’s not getting a break but it doesn’t seem as if it’s affecting him in any tangible way.

Did you see the debate last night? It was like “dog-pile-on Obama” with Charlie Gibson’s and George Stephanopoulos’ questions. At one point Obama made a conscious effort to steer the conversation to policy and was deflected by Stephanopoulos’ insistence that they talk about The Weather Underground. Incredibly frustrating.

]]> By: eldano http://www.liberadio.com/2008/04/13/clinging-to-my-martinis-and-my-constitution-and-my-antipathy-towards-a-government-that-doesnt-represent-me/comment-page-1/#comment-98129 eldano Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:20:53 +0000 http://www.liberadio.com/2008/04/13/clinging-to-my-martinis-and-my-constitution-and-my-antipathy-towards-a-government-that-doesnt-represent-me/#comment-98129 I think that he said "cling to" because the people need something to support them with their jobs leaving town. Whether it is positive (religion), traditional (gun culture), or somewhere to redirect the anger (anti-immigrant sentiments). I think he clarified that very well the next day. To prove that they wont cut him a break, he gets beat up for not wearing a flag pin, then gets hit for wearing one given to him by a vet. Why is he being dinged for not pandering? I really don't get this one. I think that he said “cling to” because the people need something to support them with their jobs leaving town. Whether it is positive (religion), traditional (gun culture), or somewhere to redirect the anger (anti-immigrant sentiments). I think he clarified that very well the next day.

To prove that they wont cut him a break, he gets beat up for not wearing a flag pin, then gets hit for wearing one given to him by a vet. Why is he being dinged for not pandering? I really don’t get this one.

]]> By: Mary http://www.liberadio.com/2008/04/13/clinging-to-my-martinis-and-my-constitution-and-my-antipathy-towards-a-government-that-doesnt-represent-me/comment-page-1/#comment-97897 Mary Wed, 16 Apr 2008 15:56:26 +0000 http://www.liberadio.com/2008/04/13/clinging-to-my-martinis-and-my-constitution-and-my-antipathy-towards-a-government-that-doesnt-represent-me/#comment-97897 Peaches, Nope I didn't get that. You know why? Because I took the time to listen to everything he said rather than the 2-second sound bite. Last time I read the Constitution it promised "to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity..." Sounds pretty rosie to me. Peaches, Nope I didn’t get that. You know why? Because I took the time to listen to everything he said rather than the 2-second sound bite. Last time I read the Constitution it promised “to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity…” Sounds pretty rosie to me.

]]> By: peaches http://www.liberadio.com/2008/04/13/clinging-to-my-martinis-and-my-constitution-and-my-antipathy-towards-a-government-that-doesnt-represent-me/comment-page-1/#comment-97876 peaches Wed, 16 Apr 2008 12:38:51 +0000 http://www.liberadio.com/2008/04/13/clinging-to-my-martinis-and-my-constitution-and-my-antipathy-towards-a-government-that-doesnt-represent-me/#comment-97876 Guess you should "git yerself" (a'la John Kerry) a gun, religion, and lash out at more people who aren't like you. That'll give you something to cling to in your hopeless wallowing. Uh, Mary, Obama thinks bitterness is the same as wallowing, read "clinging". Did you get any of that? The Constitution puts limits on government's power over its citizens, but it does not promise you a rose garden, just the freedom to make one for yourself. Guess you should “git yerself” (a’la John Kerry) a gun, religion, and lash out at more people who aren’t like you. That’ll give you something to cling to in your hopeless wallowing. Uh, Mary, Obama thinks bitterness is the same as wallowing, read “clinging”. Did you get any of that? The Constitution puts limits on government’s power over its citizens, but it does not promise you a rose garden, just the freedom to make one for yourself.

]]> By: Mary Mancini http://www.liberadio.com/2008/04/13/clinging-to-my-martinis-and-my-constitution-and-my-antipathy-towards-a-government-that-doesnt-represent-me/comment-page-1/#comment-97680 Mary Mancini Tue, 15 Apr 2008 15:49:19 +0000 http://www.liberadio.com/2008/04/13/clinging-to-my-martinis-and-my-constitution-and-my-antipathy-towards-a-government-that-doesnt-represent-me/#comment-97680 Thank you for the support, Church Secretary. I've been wondering, is being bitter better than feeling hopeless? Does one fuel action and the other wallowing? Thank you for the support, Church Secretary. I’ve been wondering, is being bitter better than feeling hopeless? Does one fuel action and the other wallowing?

]]> By: Church Secretary http://www.liberadio.com/2008/04/13/clinging-to-my-martinis-and-my-constitution-and-my-antipathy-towards-a-government-that-doesnt-represent-me/comment-page-1/#comment-97492 Church Secretary Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:42:04 +0000 http://www.liberadio.com/2008/04/13/clinging-to-my-martinis-and-my-constitution-and-my-antipathy-towards-a-government-that-doesnt-represent-me/#comment-97492 Mary Mancini, your bitterness is my bitterness. You ain't alone. And I don't live in Rural America. Mary Mancini, your bitterness is my bitterness. You ain’t alone. And I don’t live in Rural America.

]]> By: We Be Bitter « The Coyote Chronicles http://www.liberadio.com/2008/04/13/clinging-to-my-martinis-and-my-constitution-and-my-antipathy-towards-a-government-that-doesnt-represent-me/comment-page-1/#comment-97457 We Be Bitter « The Coyote Chronicles Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:50:37 +0000 http://www.liberadio.com/2008/04/13/clinging-to-my-martinis-and-my-constitution-and-my-antipathy-towards-a-government-that-doesnt-represent-me/#comment-97457 [...] 14, 2008 · No Comments Mary Mancini is a bitter, bitter, and hopelessly bitter person. The Bitterness burns. She’s bound-up in bitterness, she is, in fact, bitter-fied. I think it [...] [...] 14, 2008 · No Comments Mary Mancini is a bitter, bitter, and hopelessly bitter person. The Bitterness burns. She’s bound-up in bitterness, she is, in fact, bitter-fied. I think it [...]

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