Liberadio(!) Interview: Robert Naiman & Our Iran Policy

Robert Naiman is the National Coordinator of Just Foreign Policy, a membership organization devoted to reforming U.S. foreign policy so that it reflects the values and serves the interests of the majority of Americans. Just Foreign Policy is working to avoid a military confrontation between the United States and Iran. Naiman was formerly Senior Policy Analyst at the Center for Economic and Policy Research in Washington, holds a Masters’ Degree in Economics from the University of Illinois, and talk to us about our apparent march to war with Iran.

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Liberadio Interview: Albert Bates & Peak Oil

Albert Bates is a permaculture instructor at the Ecovillage Training Center at The Farm community in Summertown, Tennessee and a Pulitzer Prize losing author of eleven books, including Shutdown: Nuclear Power on Trial (1979) and Climate in Crisis: The Greenhouse Effect and What We Can Do (1990). His Post-Petroleum Survival Guide and Cookbook: Recipes for Changing Times is available in October from New Society Publishers. In this interview he answers our questions about Peak Oilthe idea and the movement.

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Torture: Safe, Legal, and Rare?

I’m going to clearly state two simple ideas, which turn out not to be mutually exclusive:

1. I’m against terror.

2. I’m against torture.

I am concerned that despite our national sense of clarity on the first point, we are not having an appropriate debate about the second. In order to do so, I think we must be able to have a discussion geared toward discovering answers to the following questions: Do we, as an American people, feel that torture is ever justifiable as an interrogation technique? What, in fact, constitutes torture? Should we expect of our president that he is able to state clearly his definition of torture?

I am also concerned that President Bush is creating an unfortunate analogue in his approach to torture to the approach Bill Clinton took to abortion when he was president: seeking to make it safe, legal, and rare. Mr. Bush seems to be indicating that this is his common sense common ground, but Americans should not see his position in a noble light.

Much of the policy wrangling that occurs in the abortion debate occurs at the scenario level: the battles are fought over restricting the scenarios in which we deem it acceptable to condone abortion. And now we’re seeing the same sorts of battles being fought over restricting the scenarios in which we deem it acceptable to condone torture. In neither debate, though, does it strike me that the heart of the matter is wrapped up in the details of scenarios.

Should we not begin a process of waterboarding and induced hypothermia for captured members of organized crime syndicates, gangs, drug rings, and child pornography traffickers, all of whose actions do plenty of damage to our country in smaller, less explosive ways than terrorist attacks? Each of these examples is one of a larger network, and if we are confident in our methods, it would seem that we would want to use them vigilantly to disrupt these networks. Or does our moral high ground so easily give way when framed as an issue of national security?

Why is it not enough for Bush to be as unequivocal in his actions as commander-in-chief as he is in his words when he says, “We do not torture.”? Why must he seek exceptions for the C.I.A. via Executive Order, the Justice Department, and the tacit approval of Congress? Why can he not bring himself to define for Americans what he considers torture to be, regardless of what techniques he might be seeking to authorize?

Torture, like capital punishment, becomes morally embarrassing when it is misapplied, as in the recent case of Maher Arar, a Canadian citizen detained by the U.S. government and handed over to Syria for imprisonment and interrogation. After his release, it was revealed by a Canadian commission of inquiry that he was not a security threat and had been imprisoned for a year and tortured with no access to counsel of any kind. And this is the moral leadership we demonstrate to the civilized world?

I have a friend currently living in Cairo. She is fluent in Arabic. Do I need to fear what might happen to her upon her return to the country if one of her instant messages should be intercepted and misinterpreted by the NSA or CIA? Do I need to fear my own next trip to JFK if I receive such an IM or email from her? I do not fear being questioned by my government, but I do not want to have to fear being tortured by it. Neither should any other American. Isn’t preventing such scenarios one of the afterthought justifications contributing to explanations of our invasion of Iraq?

Considering how the abortion debate stirs such emotion every 2 years at the polls, I’m surprised how little the torture debate has pricked our national conscience. Is it that we are willing to concede the moral high ground in the interest of national security? Or is it because the debate itself is being improperly conducted, with our own president attempting to bully Congress into allowing his “program” to move “forward” by employing “alternative” techniques, which he is not allowed to name lest terrorists everywhere suddenly learn exactly how unlike being held in a C.I.A. prison is to a trip to Disney World. Unfortunately, I can only conclude that it is a significant portion of both.

I pity men like Karl Rove and Dick Cheney, who are helping goad our president into looking strong in the face of another election season. To spell it out plainly, we have a president attempting to secure and defend the ability and the right of the U.S. to torture prisoners. Their craven defense of the use of torture to combat terror sadly reduces the elevation of America’s moral high ground. I can only hope that Americans of all stripes will work together to see it elevated anew by clearly stating their opposition to the use of torture, whether institutional or incidental.

We can demonstrate to other nations and to terrorists both a fierce resolve to combat terrorism, and we can do it without walking out onto moral thin ice. Such resolve sometimes requires a strong military response, but it always requires a demonstration of true moral leadership by fully enacting the principles of a civil society.

“We do not torture,” Mr. Bush? I hope that you are right and that we do not and, by your implication, that we have not. And, please, let’s keep it that way.

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Not the Colbeagle

From the Saginaw Spirit: Colbert Report Exclusive at Spirit Game

(Saginaw, MI) Join the Saginaw Spirit, in partnership with Comedy Central’s Colbert Report, as they unveil the newest team mascot at the September 30th home game! The unveiling will take place prior to the puck drop.

Other activities on that night include an Oktoberfest celebration and magnet schedule give-a-way.

The Spirit recently received national attention when the Colbert Report featured the new mascot’s naming contest. The show’s host, Stephen Colbert, urged his fan base to log onto saginawspirit.com to vote and have the new mascot named after him.

I have it on good authority (my brother the coach) that the Spirit have chosen a name that is not “The Colbeagle”. *Phew*

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Quick Links from Today’s Show

Ghost in the Machine
How the 2006 Election Will Be Stolen (Rolling Stone)
Why fix the voting machines when you can “fix” the whole election?

Fox’s Chris Wallace interviews President Clinton (Think Progress)

Media Matters for America Smackdown with Elbert Ventura – Bill O’Leilly’s enemies list

Spy Agencies say Iraq Worsens Threat
(NY Times)
National Intelligence Estimate, titled “Trends in Global Terrorism: Implications for the United States,’’ says that the war in Iraq has increased Islamic radicalism, worsening the terror threat. This NIE report was released in April. On August 21, President Bush held a press conference and told the American people the exact opposite. Watch it and be amazed by the Amazing Spinmeister. (Think Progress)

President Bush isn’t the only one who ignored the findings of the NIE that “the American invasion and occupation of Iraq has helped spawn a new generation of Islamic radicalism.” Vice President Cheney did too. (Think Progress)

Falwell Says Faithful Fear Clinton More Than Devil (LA Times)
The evangelical leader tells a conference that the New York senator will mobilize his base like no one else if she runs for president.

Watch Stephen Colbert interview Daniel Ellsberg

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Liberadio(!) Daily:
2006 Sep 20 “The Dawn of a New Super Species”

There’s a new member of the Liberadio(!) family, our mascot, The Colbeagle. Also, we won’t let the FCC be; President Bush had nothing to say at the United Nations yesterday; and the Iraq Study Group needs to go back and get a bigger boat. Finally, we thank you, Rick Casares. Your letter to the editor of the Nashville Scene is so to the point that it hurts.

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Meet Our Mascot

If you listen to the show then you know that we (and by “we” I mean “me”) have a healthy respect (and by “respect” I mean “monkey on my back”) for the one-two late-night TV punch that is The Daily Show and The Colbert Report.

If you watch Stephen Colbert then you know that he (and by “he” I mean “he”) has a healthy obsession with himself. He refers to the little eagle chick that the San Francisco zoo named after him as “my son, Stephen, Jr.;” he rallied his Colbert Nation to vote online as many times as it took to win the contest to name a new bridge in Hungary after him (“carpel tunnel is a small price to pay”); and he suggested that the Saginaw Spirit hockey team in Saginaw, MI christen their new mini-mascot, an eagle, a Colbert-related name.

Although he hasn’t lobbied Liberadio(!) we thought we would create a one-of-a-kind mascot that merges the things that we, and he, love the most – eagles, puppies, and of course, Stephen Colbert.

Please help us welcome the Liberadio(!) mascot to his new home. Ladies and gentlemen, The Colbeagle…

The Liberadio(!) Mascot - The Colbeagle

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Liberadio(!) Daily:
2006 Sep 19 WWLJSPD?

It’s International Talk Like a Pirate Day so we ask, “WWLJSPD?” or, “What Would Long John Silver’s Parrot Do?” Would he make the press walk the plank for ignoring recent research that suggests a correlation between the upcoming election and falling gas prices (or do dead men tell no tales?). Would he drink some grog and talk some environmental and economic policy with ol’ Graybeard Gore? Brwaack! Polly want to freeze CO2 emissions! Would he give John Kerry some golden booty for reaching out to both sides of the abortion issue? Avast, me beauty! Or, Would he hang the jib at the bilge rat FCC for squishing yet another tax-payer funded report? Shiver me timbers! (16 MB 35:17)

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We are all Mets Fans

If we take the time to have the difficult conversations…if we reach out to one another….if we stay calm and reasonable…even the most partisan of us will undoubtedly find common ground.

Even Nathan Moore and I have found something we agree on.

Go, Mets, go!

Mets - Division Champs

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Resign, Rumsfeld

Since Republicans have made clear that they will not allow Americans to have an open, honest debate about how best to proceed with regard to the war in Iraq, it is time for Americans to respond to the one piece of actionable intelligence at our disposal: that Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld has failed in his job.

The war in Iraq is still simmering with a recently increased commitment of about 140,000 American troops to the pot, and hatchetman Dick Cheney is out to protect Teflon Don by claiming that anyone who opposes president Bush’s Iraq policies is validating terrorists. And previously, calls for consideration of alternative strategies by Democrats have been met by cute and insulting soundbite phrases by Republican congressional leaders as directed by Rove and the RNC. So, yes, Rumsfeld is but a representative of wider foreign policy failures for which his superiors, namely Bush and Cheney, as well as Republican congressional leadership, should be held accountable. But Rumsfeld’s job description includes formulation of general defense policy, and in execution of that he has failed.

Legitimate calls for the resignation of Rumsfeld began in earnest shortly after revelations of the behavior of American troops involving torture and humiliating treatment of Iraqi prisoners at the now infamous Abu Ghraib prison. They reached a crescendo when publications as esteemed as The Economist began echoing these calls. In the case of The Economist, by running a somewhat infamous picture of one of the notable detainee photographs under a cover story headline from May 6th, 2004 of “Resign, Rumsfeld” (subscription required).

I choose The Economist as my primary example because it is a respected, non-American, non-partisan publication that covers world economic and political news and that usually has observational rather than intentional cover stories.

Anyway, soon enough, somehow, the Abu Ghraib scandal died down without ever reaching the logical conclusion of a resignation of a high-ranking military official or civilian cabinet officer, under whose alleged management the abuses occurred. Instead, the media and the world were handed the prosecutions of a few low-ranking soldiers and, perhaps more important, ongoing chaos in Iraq.

Fast forward two years, and The Economist (an endorser of Bush over Gore in 2000, then, reluctantly, Kerry over Bush in 2004) renews their call (subscription required), indicating renewed relevance alongside new evidence:

His biggest mistake—the fons et origo of all the others—was to try to fight the war with too few troops. His second-biggest was to make no proper provision for restoring order afterwards. But there is no shortage of other mistakes. Mr Rumsfeld misread the intelligence in the build-up to the war, and much of it was simply wrong in any case. He failed to plan for the occupation. He ignored the growing insurgency. He disbanded the Iraqi army, scattering 300,000 armed and unemployed men into the population. The more interesting question is why he messed up so comprehensively.

And now we’re hearing NATO estimates that tamping down the new grease fire of the Taliban in Afghanistan could take as long as 3-5 years. Hang on: isn’t this the same Taliban we already toppled 5 years ago?! Of course, the congressional report commenting on this scenario blames European allies, but we’re the ones with 1000% more troops in Iraq than in the old home turf of al-Qaeda.

I know that I’m echoing zeitgeist now brought twice to the fore by The Economist and now captured by a letter from leading Democrats to the president. And I realize that some critics of the administration think focusing on Rumsfeld is a distraction. But if we will not be allowed, as citizens, to have an informed debate as to how to treat the symptoms of the festering in our military excursions, then I feel compelled to state clearly my hope that we might at least treat one of the root causes.

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